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ANTI-TWILIGHT GROUP




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This wiki was made by me in a random fit of frustration a few months ago. Ever since, we've had growing members and many different people speak up on how they feel about Twilight. So I'd just like to say thank-you to everyone who's joined, who pops in every now and then and to those who just like to look.

This wiki has evolved from a few grammar-nutters, to over 20 literature-loving, Twilight hating friends. This group is a wiki dedicated NOT ONLY to the dislike of the Twilight series written by Stephanie Meyer, but a real appreciation of literature, of other books with a vampire or fantasy theme that sets better examples of literature than Twilight. Also, some of us have a bit of a "Fuck The Mainstream" attitude, we don't have to follow brainless literary trends, we can think for ourselves and have our own tastes in books and film.

This group is not intended to insult or offend anyone in particular, but if you are, feel free to speak up about it, though, beware of being ganged up upon as we're pretty much all here united against one thing, Twilight.
All of us do understand that Twilight is here, and you cannot change the past, but still, it doesn't mean we can't be Anti-Twilight.


In other words, WELCOME TO ANTI-TWILIGHT GROUP.




Here's some reasons why Twilight is arse, these stats are taken from http://theantitwilightmovement.webs.com/home.htm so they are not of my doing. I can't really be bothered explaining my views just yet, but when I fee a rant coming on, I'll post it.


Why don't we like Twilight?



A small summary of reasons why we don't like Twilight, if you're a bit too lazy to read all the rebuttals on Rebuttals Against Twilight. However, if there's points that you don't quite understand, read up on them in extensive detail on Rebuttals Against Twilight.


Poor Writing;
Stephanie Meyer writes at an amateur lever. She abuses the thesaurus, throws in far too many unneccesary adjectives and uses far too many synonyms for the same word. Meyer's constant massacre of words is a fast way to fill up pages, but leaves absolutely no room for plot, character development, or any kind of quality. There's no real substance to the writing.

Relationships;
Edward and Bella have a disgustingly abusive relationship, it's hard to ignore. Twilight is written in a way that condones this and even celebrates it, which is the most disgusting part. There shouldn't be anything romantic about abuse and stalking. Twilight makes these things seem oh-so-normal, romantic and in a way, it's taking the piss out of actual abuse and stalking.=. An abusive relationship is characterized by jealousy, sexual coercion, verbal abuse, control games, and power plays. Twilight proudly displays all of these. 

True Love?
The only conversations Bella and Edward hold together are discussions of how dangerous he is, how easily he could hurt her, and how temping her smell is. They know nothing of each other outside of the realm of physical attributes, and discuss nothing more than Edward's power.
When Bella decides she is in love with Edward, she still has no idea who he is, what he's like, or what his personality is. Yet somehow she starts to revolve her entire life around him in an unhealthy fit of obsession. The short amount of time in which Bella claims to "fall in love" with a person she knows next to nothing about creates the disillusion that "true love" is obtained effortlessly in a matter of days; further demeaning the very concept of "love". When Edward leaves Bella in the second book, her life falls apart and she begins purposely putting herself in dangerous and potentially life-threatening situations in order to bring him back. Eventually Edward returns after Bella throws herself off a cliff, bringing them back together again. After this happens, Meyer makes no effort to discourage this behavior as something unreasonable, but as something that will be effective. What does this teach young girls? That their lives depend on their boyfriends? That nothing else in their lives should matter as much as their relationship? That they should compromise their own safety to draw the attention of a lover? Some young, impressionable teenage girls that read these books have started to believe that this is the "perfect" relationship. This should not only concern parents, but disturb them.


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2009-03-03 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i'm a precocious little tyke.

holy shit, i spelled precocious right.

2009-03-03 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: O.o

2009-03-03 [Ritsuka-Kun]: XD nice

2009-03-03 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I can spell anything properly. XP (Thank you, Firefox.)

2009-03-04 [UV-Reactive*]: Lol!
Trolling is great, especially in chatrooms, I piss people off so much...
Anyways, any ideas on how I can improve this Wikeh?

2009-03-04 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: *highfives firefox*

2009-03-07 [GlitchGames]: Well this is true, her love is only skin-deep and shallow. It is why I chose to hate the series, along with the fact that it is so much like previous books from the past brought into this century so little, jittery high-school girls can fantasize. It was awful and a HUGE waste of any time anyone puts into it, hence why I never gave the book a glance.

2009-03-08 [UV-Reactive*]: Urgh. I've gotta put more stuff onto this wikeh..... Ideas, anyone?

2009-03-08 [nismo]: me lol

2009-03-08 [UV-Reactive*]: Hmm?
I dunno what else to put on here...

2009-03-08 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: I dunno, it's looking pretty good as it is.
Youtube vids of the Twi-tards are good. :P
I laughed for hours at that Whale on the vid link up there ^^^

xD

2009-03-09 [UV-Reactive*]: Rofl, it's so funny... I think I'll put up some links for Anti-Twilight officail page and Twilightsucks.

2009-03-09 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Yeah that would be cool, that way other members will join it.

2009-03-18 [•Fluorescent•]: [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ROSIE!! How did I know you were going to be on here? :P

2009-03-18 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Sorry Ben. But you know how much I HATE Twilight...

2009-03-18 [Ritsuka-Kun]: TT-TT sadness i heard she was gonna make another book but this time its from edwards point of view O-o

2009-03-18 [•Fluorescent•]: She is :P

I know it's okay I still love ya :P

2009-03-18 [Eyes of the Reaper]: ...oh sweet god, no... o.o

WHY WON'T SHE JUST KILL ME NOW?!?!?! T-T ...I think I'm going to go and do something I'll regret...

2009-03-18 [•Fluorescent•]: Why am I here? O.e I like twilight :P Speak to you all later x

2009-03-18 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Ugh. ANOTHER book?
Jesus Christ.

This is it people, game over. We're finished. Let's blow up the planet while we still have time.

2009-03-18 [•Fluorescent•]: Rosie there shall be no blowing up the planet :P

2009-03-18 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Yeah Ben. Let's blow up the planet.

I mean, yeah, I'm open minded, I'm sure there are books and films I love that people here will hate. I can accept people are different.
But the legions of Twi-tards?
No. Thats too far. It's FUCKING annoying.

Ughhhm sorry I'm peed off today, just gotta get my anger out. :P

2009-03-18 [•Fluorescent•]: No Rosie let's not :p

Ooo harsh don't say that too their queen they'll hunt you down :P

Why? Nothing that out of the ordinary happened out of school today... okay that one thing... but that's been happening for almost a month. Hmmm... what's up?

2009-03-18 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I'm with [*Suicidal Cupcake*]. o.o I'll provide the munition.

2009-03-19 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: fun fact about the new Twilight book. turns out the dumbass author was giving unfinished copies to people on the set of the twilight abominationofafilm. an unfinished version has since been leaked onto the internets. epic fail ensued as she cried, and refused to finish the book claiming, 'i write how i feel. and right now, if i were to try and write, James would probably win and the Cullens would all die'.

2009-03-19 [Eyes of the Reaper]: WRITE WOMAN! WRITE LIKE THE WIND!

2009-03-19 [UV-Reactive*]: LOLLLLL

Yeah, new book is shit, it's called Midnight Sun.

2009-03-19 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Wow...even I'm not emo enough to come up with a title like that.

2009-03-19 [UV-Reactive*]: Urgh. They're all about times in the day and crap. Clever, but pretty much irrelevant to the books.

2009-03-19 [Eyes of the Reaper]: *nod*

2009-03-19 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: I wish she would write that.
'Bout time those sparkling pricks died. :P

You know when I first heard about Twilight, I thought it would be a creepy Sci-fi thing, like the Twilight Zone, on TV.
Damn I was dissapointed.

2009-03-19 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: my friend Danielle described Twilight thusly, 'it's a dramatic novel about the complex relationship between a 105 year old vampire and the human he falls in love with. he has to fight other vampires so they can be together.'

i read the first three pages and wanted to choke a bitch. 

2009-03-20 [•Fluorescent•]: Okay I'm litterally throwing myself to the wolves here, but don't you think you're all going a bit over the top for something's that's fiction? Okay I know there are those some who have totally got obsessed with it and I hate them too. But if you dislike something so much is it really worth the time and effort?

2009-03-20 [Eyes of the Reaper]: To combat the militant crazies known as Twi-tards--yes. It is worth the time and effort. I want them to know that no matter how much they like something--no matter how many times I have something thrown at me or how many times I'm threatened--I want them to know that I will ALWAYS be standing in their way. I will ALWAYS be here to make sure intelligence and literary merit survive.

2009-03-20 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: yeah, it really isn't a waste of time, seeing as how i'll be trolling anyway. and twi-tards are so much fun to watch squirm when confronted with logic.

2009-03-20 [UV-Reactive*]: Tbh, I end up telling Twi-tards why I hate it, and they always realise what I'm talking about and agree... I mean, Smeyer is just generally a shit writer.
And really, we've got enough idiots in this world, we don't need more.
And what's gonna happen when those 9-year-old TwiTards realise love isn't really like that? They're gonna come crashing down, or just stay in a wonderfully abusive relationship.

2009-03-20 [•Fluorescent•]: Right... [UV-Reactive*] I actually agree with :P But that's life they got to experience :P builds character.

2009-03-20 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Or gives rise to an increased count of suicides...

2009-03-20 [•Fluorescent•]: Meh whichever path they chose :P If they do suicide that's pretty dumb tbh :\ over a fictional character.

2009-03-20 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: I've seen grown men cry when they find out pro wrestling is fake. Who's to say it can't happen?

2009-03-20 [•Fluorescent•]: What?! Pro-wrestling is fake?! NOEHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sob*

(joking btw :P)

2009-03-20 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: *Chuckle* I gathered.

2009-03-20 [•Fluorescent•]: Pro-wrestling is pretty crap though it's soo fake I mean omg weren't they smart enough to work it out themselves? :P

2009-03-21 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i dunno, i'm a darwinist, if suicide rates increase the gene pool got some proverbial chlorine.

2009-03-21 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Mmm. Good point, but I didn't say the suicide was a bad thing ;-]

2009-03-21 [•Fluorescent•]: Suicide I think it's someone's choice if they want to do it but I don't think you should wish it on anyone =S

2009-03-21 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i wish it on a lot of people. like the emos. and those idiot jocks in high school who will never amount to anything. and people who generally annoy me. and babies who generally annoy me. and fans of book series who take both themselves and the source material waaaay too seriously.

2009-03-21 [•Fluorescent•]: That's horrible :\

2009-03-21 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: I didn't wish it on anyone either. I mean, their shit doesn't concern me, if they top themselves, as Von Fugger said, the gene pool got a proverbial dose of chlorine.

2009-03-22 [UV-Reactive*]: I reckon that Twilight does nothing good for society at all. I mean, it enforces patriarchy by a kabjillion. Doesn't help that Twilight is aimed at the most vulnerable age group of girls. When they're pre-adolescent, immature, still figuring things out about themselves. The a book comes along, with pretty skinny people, that enforce that it's ok for your boyfriend to use suicide as a form of control over you, that stalking you is ok, that the only way to get attention from a boy is to play the "Mary Sue" or damsel in distress.
I mean, going ino abusive relationships when you're older because you've had a bad model for this, eg, Twilight. Abusive relationships= suicide, drugs, unwanted kids, abortion, wife-bashing, poverty, prostitution, the list could go on. And yes, those things are extreme, but we live in an extreme world where anything like this is possible, and happens on a day-to-day program.

2009-03-22 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i dunno, I think Twilight was written as a joke between her and Anne Rice to see exactly how easily riled fangirls could get.

2009-03-23 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I vote Anne Rice.

2009-03-23 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i dunno, the twi tards are pretty easy. just present them with logic and they practically shit themselves. at least with anne rice you have to try to point out the fanfic style writing.

2009-03-27 [UV-Reactive*]: xD
Anne Rice is great. Her stories are modern AND old. That's what I like, it isn't completely created for the mainstream, like Twi-Arse.

2009-03-27 [GlassCasket]: lmao!!! XD i love you guys!!! whoever made this place is freckin' brilliant!!!

2009-03-27 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *Points to [UV-Reactive*]* :P

2009-03-27 [GlassCasket]: HUZZAHHH!!! *hugs* you are awesome XD sorry i give random hugs XD

2009-03-27 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Don't be sorry, I got raped by [UV-Reactive*] yesterday like, twice with random hugs.

2009-03-27 [GlassCasket]: XD niiice

2009-03-29 [UV-Reactive*]: =]
I'm glad you like the wikeh. xD
Join on the members page?

2009-04-01 [Yanmaru88]: Omg, I'm watching that reaction clip, so funny XD

2009-04-01 [UV-Reactive*]: ROFL.
Her voice makes me want to punch an infant...

2009-04-01 [Yanmaru88]: LOL, omg YES. It's so irritating, "oh my gawd, oh my gawd, there's supposed to be blood, oh my gawd"

2009-04-01 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Ugh I agree.
Have you seen the one where she moans about people not liking Breaking Dawn?

UGHHH it's anoying. 

2009-04-01 [Yanmaru88]: Lol, no, but I bet I'll probably wet myself from laughter, lol

2009-04-02 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: Her videos are the equivelant to troll bait. and I did not disappoint, oh no.

yay douchebaggery!

2009-04-03 [Yanmaru88]: LOL, maybe I should check out some of the others then

2009-04-04 [UV-Reactive*]: The video of the white snorlax venting about Stephen King makes me want go all Columbine massacre and kill people.

2009-04-04 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Do it.

2009-04-04 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: It was retarded. "Oh he's just jealous because he's not getting all the attention she is"

I bet Stephan King would have pissed himself laughing if he had heard that. :P

2009-04-04 [Yanmaru88]: LOL

2009-04-04 [UV-Reactive*]: I reckon!
I remember reading on www.theantitwilightmovement.webs.com the rant they did in reply to Snorlax's about Stephen King.

2009-04-04 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: pssh, stephen king didn't notice her. he was too busy being an amazing author, and yes, counting his millions.

you know what the real difference is between JK Rowling and S. Meyer? JK Rowling isn't a corporate robot sent to steal millions from dumbass teens who think romance and date rape are the same thing.

2009-04-04 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Amen!

2009-04-04 [Yanmaru88]: Yes, good point there

2009-04-05 [UV-Reactive*]: I definitely agree.

I mean, J.K Rowling is great. She's original, and can actually WRITE. Unlike Smeyer.

I mean, a good author doens't just spit out like 5-6 books over 4 years, like Smeyer. I mean, ffs.

Good books usually take a bit more thought...

2009-04-05 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Smeyer's books sound like a rough draft. Rowling's? Not so much. They're actually a decent read.

2009-04-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Be afraid...be very afraid. Twi-tards are resorting to violence against the haters.

2009-04-05 [Yanmaru88]: I like the idea of Rowling releasing her books once a year, adding to the suspense.

But seriously, I've never seen so many hory people at my school fantasise about how great the Twilight saga is. I've seen real smart-ass first years go gaga over them...it's quite disturbing >:S

2009-04-05 [UV-Reactive*]: I've been on Twilightsucks.com and I was looking at the stories of violence against Anti-Twi's.
It isn't just in America.
Even in NZ, my home country.

So, seriously, be careful out there. If you're planning to speak your mind about Twi-Shit, make sure you know how to fight, just in case. It's for your own safety.

There's a lot of rabid twi-tards out there.

So this is serious.
xx

Stay safe out there.

2009-04-05 [Yanmaru88]: OMG, I'm so tempted right now to piss of a Twi-tard just to see what their reaction would be, LOL, even if I end up running down the street out of fear of getting my ass kicked for it :P

2009-04-05 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: oh, i totally rib my friend Joe about it. He saw the movie 9 times in theaters, only twice with a female present. I demanded he turn in his testicles upon discovery. 

But it's cool, we laugh it off.

2009-04-05 [Yanmaru88]: Holy crap! NINE TIMES??? I'd probably get sick of it the first three times, but hell man!

2009-04-05 [Deg]: Yiiiikes lol I love the thing on top that shows how many times face and voice were mentioned but not personality wow that's...pathetically great lol
I made my own anti-twilight wiki if anyone wants to see it. there's no members or anything it's just there to rant about hha

Twilight-Suckage

2009-04-05 [BlueRaven]: ha twilight isnt worth shit lol

2009-04-05 [Deg]: ^^ Agreed gabe, agreed lol

2009-04-05 [BlueRaven]: lol i didnt even see the pic up there yet cause it wasnt loaded and then i saw it and i was like ewww

2009-04-05 [Deg]: yeahhhh it's...kinda gross but oh well it's basically it

2009-04-05 [BlueRaven]: yeah

2009-04-06 [UV-Reactive*]: Rofl!

Twi-Tards are rabid. o.o

I made that opening pic one day when I was bored. The idea just came into my head and I had to do it.
It's not wonderful, but I am NOT a photoshop ninja... Yet.

2009-04-06 [UV-Reactive*]: Ok, I'm also fixing those links, and making a following page about it.

2009-04-06 [Yanmaru88]: sweetness man, and I agree, Twi-Tards are rabid, what with all the shit I've heard about spazzing out at people for a reason they can't handle.

2009-04-06 [Deg]: yeah it's ridiculous

2009-04-09 [The Lost Boy]: http://www.youtube.com/user/nuttymadam3575

people laugh at her anyway... and twat?

yes

yes you are.

2009-04-16 [UV-Reactive*]: Ahhh. The Twi is butt.

I'm thinking of getting T-Shirts printed.

2009-04-16 [Yanmaru88]: Ooooooh T-shirts will be awesome; they'll speak so loudly for themselves XD

2009-04-16 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Haha, theres a shop in my town where you can take images and stuff, and have it printed on a T-shirt, I should totally make some too. xD

2009-04-16 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Bear in mind...you would be outwardly expressing your dislike of Twi-Shit in public and may get gang-raped by the Twihards.

2009-04-17 [Yanmaru88]: Ugh, at least you'll get a good workout from those Twi-tards by running away from them constantly :P

2009-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: xD Thats true...

2009-04-17 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: sooo i definitely started volunteering at my old high school, and this girl was reading twilight, so i asked her if she liked it, she said yes. i asked why, she responded because she loved the realistic romance between a human and a vampire.

i'm not allowed to volunteer in that class anymore.

2009-04-17 [Eyes of the Reaper]: lmfao Way to go, King! I give that a ten. XD

2009-04-17 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Ahahahah pwnt. (The twi-tard)

2009-04-18 [UV-Reactive*]: Rofl!!!

Yes T-shirts are hellcool. I want stuff on it like "Ban Twilight", "Kill The Cullens" "Real Vampires Don't Sparkle" "Team Literature"

Lol, King.
I would have felt like screaming at her. *High-five*

2009-04-18 [Yanmaru88]: You could just have "Twilight Sucks Butt" or "The ANTI-Twilight Fanclub" :P

LOL, King, I agree with UV-Reactive on that. THERE IS NO REALISTIC ROMANCE between a human and a vampire, ugh, I would've been so tempted to give the girl a smack across the face :P

2009-04-18 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i don't really care if somebody likes crappy literature, that's their own perogative. I just really don't like the book. I wouldn't scream at someone for liking it though, or smackin da hoes.

2009-04-18 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I would just stare, shake my head at my own disappointment in humanity, then walk away mumbling something about how low humanity could possibly get before it completely destroys itself.

2009-04-18 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: We're on our way to destroying ourselves rather rapidly. Humans don't learn by their past fuckups.

2009-04-19 [Yanmaru88]: Yeah, good point. There are too many selfish people, and not enough of those who actually care...which is why I hate the human race; there's no way around that fact for me...

2009-04-19 [Eyes of the Reaper]: *nod* Me too.

2009-04-19 [Yanmaru88]: Sweet, I'm not the only one *sighs*

2009-04-27 [UV-Reactive*]: More and more people are reading Twilight at my school. *Sigh*

2009-04-28 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: It's a plague upon this earth that must be exterminated.

2009-04-28 [Yanmaru88]: Yeah it's insane...I watched the movie the other day...and all to sum the whole thing up in one word...disappointing, for a romance vampire movie...it was pretty pathetic

2009-05-03 [UV-Reactive*]: Hmmmmmmmm... I'm thinking of adding some more stuff to this wiki. I want to get more members.

2009-05-03 [Yanmaru88]: What kind of things did you have in mind? I think the more members the better....make things all the more amusing on my part :P

2009-05-12 [Noble]: really stories bullshit!

ive read all the twilight books (my girlfriend *suggested it*) and i agree some of the aspects of the book truly suck ass, your right about the edward bella thing, theres no depth, she never gets past describing his body, but there was cool aspects of it, the fighting for example, i thought that was pretty cool, although in retrospect my biggest problem with twilight is everyone got wat they wanted in some form or another, jacob found a mate, bella got edward AND a daughter, and her father, and mothers support, whilst leah shacked up with somone cant reember who, and pretty much no one died who should havem, so yeah when i hear "shes not that great, shes an average author who wrote an average book" i can completely agree with that, however the few, and i mean FEW twi-hards who have attacked people, non of which i belive are true on here, are just the ones who obsess over everything, there not really twi-hards, its just the latest thing ot obsess over, the next kelly armstrong book to come out or teven king book and theyll all be diehard werewolf fans or clown lovers you know - so in conclusion i dont belive twilight is as good as everyone says, but it isnt the worst book ive ever read either.

2009-05-12 [Yanmaru88]: I suppose so, I would agree that it's not the worst book, but it's DEFINATELY not on the "greatest literature" list

2009-05-12 [Noble]: defintley =]

i just think everyone on both sides of the argument take it too far

2009-05-12 [Eyes of the Reaper]: At least Ms. Armstrong can write (I happen to be a fan of her Darkest Powers series) and it's not a mushy, whiny teen-romance book with super-hot guys. They're average looking. One is intelligent and the heroine is pretty--not gorgeous, just pretty.

One book that's "Twilight-esque" (though written 1000x better) that I enjoyed was Evermore by Alyson Noel. It's a love story with a supernatural--but that's all that it has in common as far as I'm concerned.

2009-05-13 [UV-Reactive*]: Hmm.

There are some really crazed obsessors out there. I've heard of 30 year old women who believe that Twilight is real, and travel to Washington to find Edward.

It's a fad, but it's a detrimental fad that could have really bad adverse effects on society's ideas of "romance".

Average author? She really can't write...
Mind you, it does depend on your definition of average.
Her syntax is terrible.
The plot lines have major holes in them.
Many other reasons too, but I can't be bothered explaining them at the moment.
Her books are really frustrating to read, when people compare her to J.K. Rowling, it's frustrating! Rowling can write, Smeyer, can't.


By the way...
It is Anti-Twilight. It isn't like were going
"EwwWwW! I lyk, h8 twilighttt! it's sew shitt and lyk lame.!!@#!11"

I dislike Twilight for reasons. Not just because it was uncomfortable for me to read.

Anyway. Thanks for your feedback. It is good to hear other people's views of Twilight.

2009-05-13 [Yanmaru88]: Yeah, earlier today, someone asked me if I liked Twilight...I just shook my head no, and then they said that there are friends of theirs that would beat me up if they heard me say that....it's kinda pathetic how people get so obsessed over a crappy vampiric-romance series.

I have heard that a romance novel involving blood sucking monsters are real hard to make a good impact on, yet there is one author I admire who has achieved that feat, Sherrilyn Kenyon; she writes books based on Greek Gods, vampires, monsters and other creepy crawlies in the world and they all have a romantic bit to it, it's really cool...unlike some other teeny-filled stack of toilet paper also known as Twilight...but yeah...the gaps in the plot is really annoying...and the speed at which the characters fall in love with each other is just rediculous, bleghh....

2009-05-14 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Uhm, doesn't Sherrilyn Kenyon just write literature-porn involving the supernatural? I have heard the stories are good, but books that contain multiple sex scenes just weird me out, what's the point in writing/reading about such a thing when you can access a myriad of strange erotica film on the internet, or just go out and buy a porno mag/dvd?

2009-05-14 [Yanmaru88]: It's not just about the porn...that's just a romantic bonus to the plot. Well, when you put it that way, I suppose it would be so much better reading x-rated romance novels rather than watching porno Dvds because I guess the imagining of it would be so much better...like most romance movies; their too soppy and it's crap. With books, you can add your own mental flair. The supernatural storylines of Kenyon's books are really good.

2009-05-14 [Noble]: yeah well i get what your saying, the syntax of the book frustrated me too, and the character depth drove me insane, if theres one thing i must have in a book its background, characters with depth, and possibley a sperate book til fill in their exploits before and after, kida like the silmarrillion with lotr, explianed the history of middle earth and such.

or the dark tower, which ties in with things like salems lot and has whole books devoted to past parts of the protagonists life, thats the type of book i like to read.

2009-05-14 [The Lost Boy]: [UV REACTIVE*] Rowling can write? no, i disagrre. she can entertain.. its not so much about the quality of the writing (because everyone educated i know could write as well as that) But its more about the interesting world and storyline shes created.

Having never read Meyers work i can't comment, but it sounds like shes made some pretty big plot holes, which is not the sign of a good writer.

2009-05-14 [Noble]: to be fair meyer is a fairly new writer as far as my understanding goes, plus she must have a pretty crappy for some of the stuff to get through

2009-05-14 [Ritsuka-Kun]: no meyer isnt she has multiple books out other than twilight
one sounds like she ripped the idea off of Stephen king

2009-05-14 [Noble]: meh wouldnt be suprised really, SK's wrote some awesome material, and its covered alot of supernatural stuff, its hard not ot copy certain elements even unintentionally from some people, as ost of its been done before =]

2009-05-15 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Too true, I write sometimes and it annoys when I discover I'm writing cliches...it's so difficult to create something new. Smeyer has created something new, but something TERRIBLE too, new doesn't always mean "good."

2009-05-15 [UV-Reactive*]: Meyer is just a.... Very bad author.
Her plot holes annoy the hell out of me!

Ah yes, [The Lost Boy] she can entertain well, and her plot is great.

Yeah, Twilight is not Meyer's first attempt.
Sadly, it's not her last. =[

Have you heard the Stephen King comment about Smeyer's writing style? It's hilarious. I'll try find it and post it up here.

2009-05-15 [Yanmaru88]: Seriously??? I thought the Twilight saga was her first...I'd never heard of her until the Twilight books came out. She must really suck if the Twilight series isn't her first. I'd hate to read her first books O_o

2009-05-15 [Noble]: meh

i think its just the persons opinion of whats good writinhg and whats not, i can ignore plot holes, its part of having an imagination =]

2009-05-15 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Plot holes have you sitting there like...wtf? Kinda stupid to be honest.

2009-05-16 [Yanmaru88]: Yeah, it leaves way too much to question I think

2009-05-16 [Noble]: yeah

2009-05-18 [UV-Reactive*]: The idiocy about it, is that people can go so crazy over a book that has such BAD plotholes, when apart from "edwards hawt", the plot is stated as being the best thing about it.

So, the plot is crap, but people love it?

2009-05-18 [Noble]: its weird in a way, i think i mainly finished it just ot see what everyones powers would do to each other, i wanted someone to get their ass kicked, but apart from the strength side and powers the book didnt develop anyone properly, edward should have told more about himself, like what he'd been doing all those years anf why he has one REALLY muscley arm ;)

the only good backstory ui liked was rosalines

2009-05-18 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Edward is a wanker. He secretly likes boys. 'Nuff said.

2009-05-18 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: can that really be classified as a secret?

2009-05-19 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: I suppose not, but the twi-tards are blind to it, so in a sense, it can be.

2009-05-19 [Yanmaru88]: On the weekend, my older sister was going on and on about Twilight...all I did was stare at her in disbelief. I can't understand either how people can love a crappy-plotted novel so much

2009-05-19 [Noble]: meh, its agirls book, its obvious, i do english language and it kinda covers it that girls seek understanding and connection rather than other stuff and bella has that with edward, the connection etc, its complicated and im doing an ubershit job of explainig it but meh

2009-05-19 [Yanmaru88]: Yeah, that's understandable, but there are also heaps of guys at my school reading the series, it's kinda scary

2009-05-19 [Noble]: haha

yeah well i read it, its just a book at the end of the day, loads of ppl get obsessed with things, the matrix, porn, umm well thats all i can think of now

2009-05-19 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: mmmm, porn. as addictive as crack without the use of a pipe.

2009-05-20 [Yanmaru88]: LOL good point...not that I, well......okay, I read novels with explicit love scenes in it...so I probably shouldn't be saying anything :P

2009-05-20 [The Lost Boy]: yeah but the twilight addiction is the most shameful of all. At least crack can keep you entertained for brief periods.

(i would presume)

*sideways glance*

2009-05-20 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: apparently Twilight keeps these little shits entertained for long periods of time. at least crack entertains us by watching crack addicted hobos mugging people. i find that quite hilarious.

2009-05-21 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: You wouldn't be laughing if one of them stabbed you with a needle infected with their HIV o.O

2009-05-22 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: yeah i would. cuz then i would go around infecting people with HIV. And then i get sent to jail for something, i'll get raped, and the AIDS will get sent through the prison. It'll be a wonderous undertaking.

2009-05-22 [Yanmaru88]: Omg LMAO, I can picture the whole thing already. Oh, the beauty of bad people dying of AIDS, as well as HIV LOL

2009-05-23 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: It's just like when god sent AIDS to africa. Cuz, y'know, god's a racist apparently. Or Africans fuck monkeys. Either way sound about right living in the south...

2009-05-23 [UV-Reactive*]: Loll. That's quite mean, but sickeningly funny at the same time.

2009-05-24 [Yanmaru88]: True that

2009-05-27 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Okay. By the power invested in me thanks to [UV-Reactive*] I am here to make a notice about wiki postings. This is not MSN. Unless you have something relevant to say in this messageboard, i.e. a point or argument to make, for example, do not post here. Things like "Yeah" or "True that," slow down conversation, or kill them altogether. We would appreciate your co-operation, thankyou.

2009-05-28 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Without conversations, most wikis die, no matter what they're about.

2009-05-28 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: and that's where i come in, what with my witticisms and cheeky banter.

2009-05-28 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: That is true, but retarded one-worded comments just speed up the death.

2009-05-29 [UV-Reactive*]: Conversation is good. I enjoy it. And yes, Fugger, that's where you come in. =]]

I've noticed that the Twilight obsession has calmed down a bit yeah?

2009-05-30 [Yanmaru88]: Yeah, I've noticed that too...although...I was in the book store the other day, and I found a book on Robert Pattison and the Twilight stuff, including his favourite foods, style, background and kami knows what else. I just stood there shaking my head when I flipped through the pages -_-

2009-06-02 [Zombiie Natiion]: haha sign me up people

2009-06-02 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: hey, wait, does that mean i have political and military power in this natiion of yours? 

or am i just a figurehead, being manipulated from the shadows?

either way, apparently I'm actually king of something now.

2009-06-02 [Zombiie Natiion]: you what? lol

2009-06-02 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Hahahah, I lol'd. [Zombiie Natiion] pay attention to Fugger's username, think about it. ;] And if you wish to be on the member's list, there's a link to the member's page at the top of this messageboard, click that, then click the Edit button and add your name to the list.

2009-06-02 [Yanmaru88]: If you're joining or have already done so...Welcome to the world of I despise Twilight =]

2009-06-03 [Zombiie Natiion]: pfft i see.... lol no, you don't have any kind of power because i AM the Zombiie Natiion you're just a zombie king :)

2009-06-03 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: sooo, does that mean you're actually a couple hundred (or more) zombies, posing as an attractive female on internet chat boards to lure in your prey?

That's genius.

2009-06-03 [Zombiie Natiion]: haha i know :D we're just that clever ;)

2009-06-03 [UV-Reactive*]: LOL.

Yes, I think so...
Yes, so there's a league of Natiions on EP... I think I've seen 3... But I'm guessing you're all mates, yeah?

2009-06-04 [Zombiie Natiion]: yep :D myself, [Cloud Natiion] and [Tasha//x] lol we are the league of Natiions |^_^ we are looking for more people to add.. but only beacause of our wiki, bloody beautiful. we've got so many members now we need other people to help us run it seeing as though none of us are online all the time -_-' that's the only reason the league was made.. obviously i'm the original Natiion and then theres my sister [Cloud Natiion] and trend wanted to be a Natiion aswell so we could take over the beauty world of EP :D :D

2009-06-04 [Cloud Natiion]: Haha yeah there are so many members now we do really need to recruite the next natiion i suppose... but we're the three original natiions, my sister being the original :D

2009-06-04 [Zombiie Natiion]: wahey :D

2009-06-05 [UV-Reactive*]: That's prety epic. You've got like, an elite online club here.

What happens if someone who hasn't gone through bloody beautiful. and just calls themself a Natiion?

2009-06-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: ...I imagine they'd be lynched ^^ but Natiion in a username is kinda uncommon...

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: haha yep :) we'd make their life hell untill they either changed it or left this site :)

2009-06-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: XD My assumption was correct, I win.

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: hehe

2009-06-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: I browsed your wiki quickly, it looks interesting ^^

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: well thank you very much hun ^_^ i did the layout and made all the pages and graphics.. [Cloud Natiion] wrote all the info and i edited it.. [Tasha//x] doesn't really do much coz shes a lazy bitch XD haha jokes.. but yeah most of the work is done by myself and cloud

2009-06-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: It's very well presented, I like it. I also like the sense of almost unattainable exclusiveness, lol. Makes me wanna try my luck...

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: haha well that's what we were aiming for darling :D hmm.. i checked out your house.. you're pretty :) you should try it! would you like me to put you up in the judging panel? i rekon the other Natiions would love you ;)

2009-06-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Oh please do ^^ I'd love to feel special enough to be approved by The Judges if I do get in.

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: lol aww bless ya! no worries darling you'll be a member no worries :) after all, it is a wiki for the beautiful people of elfpack and i rekon you're beautiful :P

2009-06-05 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: ^////^ Thankyee much

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: :D

2009-06-05 [Cloud Natiion]: Ahaa awesome ^_^
And oit Zombiie you make it sound like you did most of it! I started the wiki in the first place, cheeky cow! And I made most of the pages and wrote the contents ¬__¬ Corr :P

2009-06-05 [Zombiie Natiion]: pfft

2009-06-05 [Cloud Natiion]: You only pfft cause you know im right. Taking credit for my work! Pfft.

2009-06-06 [~*~Jessica Filth~*~]: Ahahah, the sibling rivalry rears it's...beautiful head. :-P

2009-06-06 [Zombiie Natiion]: lmao

2009-06-06 [UV-Reactive*]: Lolzor. You go away for a little while and TADA! Sibling rivalry. The world is a great place.

2009-06-06 [Yanmaru88]: Lol, loving the sibling rivaly...I take it everyone's heard of the New Moon movie coming out? The preview looks okay, but I bet that in between all the "okay" bits, it's all banter and crying -_-

2009-06-06 [James Von Fugger, King of the Zombies!]: i had my friend describe the book. this is the book.

'i love you eddy!'
'we cant be together, because there needs to be drama SOMEWHERE!' *runs to Italy*
'Jacob, please be kind to me in a non sexual way, cuz that would be icky'
'i love you bella. well, i love parts of you anyways'
'i love both you AND edward! omg the drama!'
'hey guys i'm back! turns out Italy sucked. Hey Bella, why are you dry humping a furry?'

fin.

2009-06-06 [Cloud Natiion]: HAHAHA i love the description of it XD hit the nail on the head?

2009-06-06 [Yanmaru88]: Lol, I agree with Cloud Natiion, the description of that is good.

2009-06-07 [UV-Reactive*]: ROFL.

'hey guys i'm back! turns out Italy sucked. Hey Bella, why are you dry humping a furry?'

LOLOLOL.

That's practically it. The 2nd book is the WORST.
I'm hoping, to get a chapter by chapter breakdown written by a friend of mine on another wiki page. I've read most of it and it's hilarious.
Sounds like a good idea?

2009-06-07 [Cloud Natiion]: Aha sounds like a great idea xD

2009-06-08 [UV-Reactive*]: Mmk. Well, I've re-read the "What's wrong with Twilight, chapter-by-chapter"
And I think it's a bit too derogatory, patronizing. It kinda sounds a bit too mean. Like, we're attacking the bad things in Twilight because we can't come up with a solid arguement...

But, I have found these AMAZING arguements about why the whole plot is terrible, and I think those deserve to be up here more.

Maybe I should poll this.

Ok.

Should I put What's Wrong With Twilight (Chapter by Chapter) OR Arguements Against Twilight?

2009-06-08 [Eyes of the Reaper]: What's wrong with Twilight, chapter-by-chapter. Or arguments against Twilight. Why not both?

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